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[ Light zapping ]
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-I'm sure you've had
a lot of people that
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won't talk to you.
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I'm willing to talk,
but I can't change the past.
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This is humanity.
This is life.
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This is the way
people looked the other way.
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I worked for the New York City
Police Department for 10 years,
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and you would think
that I would have been
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more savvy as a retired cop.
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Shouldn't I have known better?
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Shouldn't I have caught onto
something there?
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So, I don't have an answer.
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They would send a boat
that would take me out
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to his island to do massage.
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And it was a nice gig.
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You know, it's quite a place.
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It's just dreamy.
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It's to die for.
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Just a beautiful,
beautiful place.
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Jeffrey was a nice fella.
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You know, there was no reason
to be suspicious in any way.
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There was a woman there that was
running around,
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taking care
of all sorts of details.
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Only to find out later
that that was Ghislaine.
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Anyhow, after one of his
massages, he says,
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"Could you come in?"
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And I went in there, and there
was a young lady there.
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He asked me to show her
how to do massage.
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So I massaged Jeffrey with her
and showed her a stroke or two
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and had her follow up
doing the same strokes as me.
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Based on everything I've read
since that time, you know,
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she could have easily
been under 16.
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And that young lady may have
suffered for many years
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under the control
of Ghislaine and Jeffrey.
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And for that young lady,
I would like to say,
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you know, I'm so sorry
I didn't do anything about it.
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I didn't know
or I chose not to know.
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[ Siren wails ]
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-This is
the trial of the century.
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This is the trial
of the century!
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-This is one of the most eagerly
anticipated criminal trials
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in recent history.
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-It's the opening day of case
number 20 Cr. 330,
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the United States of America
vs. Ghislaine Maxwell.
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-Ghislaine Maxwell...
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-[ Speaks German ]
...Jeffrey Epstein.
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-[ Speaking native language ]
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-Maxwell stands accused
of recruiting
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and trafficking young girls
to be sexually abused
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by her now-dead partner,
Jeffrey Epstein.
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-It is a vast departure
from the luxury
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in which Ghislaine Maxwell
has spent most of her life.
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-On one side, the defence team,
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reportedly costing Maxwell
more than $7 million.
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On the other,
two lawyers who have spent
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seven years preparing
their case against her.
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-This is a trial about
a sex-trafficking enterprise
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that destroyed the lives of
countless young women and girls.
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And I think people
are fascinated
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as to how they got away
with it so long.
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-A conviction is very important,
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because the one key thing
you don't want to do
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is allow an abuser
back out on the streets.
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To allow her access
to the public again
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would just be catastrophic,
in my view.
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-Attending court,
Ghislaine Maxwell's family,
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including her brothers,
Kevin and Ian.
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-Ghislaine Maxwell
is the daughter
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of the disgraced billionaire
media tycoon, Robert Maxwell.
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-The trial is just the latest
in a long line of scandals
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to hit the Maxwell family,
which began with her father.
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-My philosophy of life
can be stated very simply.
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Happiness could only be had
in hard work...
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in service to your fellow man
and to your country.
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Bang-bang.
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-The question remains,
how did he fall off the boat?
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-The Serious Fraud Office
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has begun an investigation
of Mirror Group Newspapers.
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-Robert Maxwell's sons,
Kevin and Ian,
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have denied conspiring
to defraud
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their company's pension scheme.
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-What do you feel right now,
when you're carrying this name?
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-I'm proud of it.
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I love my name.
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I was born with it
and I'm proud of it
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and I shall remain
proud of it forever.
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It's a great name.
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-What do you know,
Ghislaine Maxwell?
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What do you know?
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We want names. We want answers.
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You must be held accountable.
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We, the people, deserve to know!
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[ Indistinct conversations,
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-My job is, I go to parties.
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I meet people
and I see what people are doing
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and I see what people
don't want me to see.
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Because there's always
something going on.
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I started my career when I was
discovered by Andy Warhol
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at the tender age of --
Oh, my God, Andy, don't hate me!
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But I was probably 16 or 17.
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And, you know, I started
going to the Warhol clique.
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He gave me my first job,
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and I started
interviewing celebrities
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for Interviewmagazine.
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And I've met everybody.
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I would go out night after
night, looking for stories.
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So I've done a lot of snooping.
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And I found that
if you just listened,
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if you just,
kind of, like, were quiet
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and people knew you were
a storyteller, they found you.
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And they just loved to talk!
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Back in the '90s, I was
working for AvenueMagazine
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and Hamptonsmagazine
as their society columnist.
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So that's when I
first actually met, you know,
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both Jeffrey and Ghislaine
at parties.
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Ghislaine Maxwell --
when she was in a room,
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you knew she was there,
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and she wanted you to know
she was there.
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So she performed.
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She was on,
she was effervescent,
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and I felt that she knew
she was being watched,
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she wanted to be watched,
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but I thought Jeffrey Epstein
was another case.
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He was a little bit shy.
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He didn't really stand out.
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And, so, Ghislaine
fulfilled the idea
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of being his social director.
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It was almost like she was
his social secretary.
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Her little black book, you know,
was everything to her.
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And she dealt in the commerce
of introductions.
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She really was a connector.
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She had this invisible
butterfly net,
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and she would go out in
the social scene
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in London and New York
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and she would whisk her net and
capture the beautiful people.
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The rich, the famous,
the powerful people.
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And she had this posh accent.
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She was well-educated.
She was witty. She was fun!
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I mean, everybody talks about
how much fun she is,
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and she deliberately set out
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to make friends
with important people.
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And she used her
royal Rolodex to do that.
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Her big card was Prince Andrew.
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That was her main calling card.
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Everywhere she went,
it's Prince Andrew this,
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Prince Andrew that.
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You know, they say in America
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that if you put out a lamb chop,
everyone will come.
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Well, if you put out
Prince Andrew,
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it's a rare bird
in New York City.
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You know, you can see all kinds
of wildlife here,
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but, you know,
royalty is somewhat unusual.
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So they all came.
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There's no question that
Prince Andrew
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elevated Ghislaine Maxwell
and Jeffrey Epstein.
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You know, it just gave
her this veneer.
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"Oh, she's in the royal court.
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She's a friend of the Prince."
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"She's --" You know, "She has
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It coated her, you know,
with a veneer of respectability.
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But I don't believe
the society people I know,
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whose names I can't even speak,
'cause they'd kill me, knew.
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We just didn't know.
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People weren't paying attention.
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-We demand justice!
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We demand that justice
is served,
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and it can start
with Ghislaine Maxwell!
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-The trial of Ghislaine Maxwell
is under way.
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The prosecution call four women
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who claim Ghislaine groomed them
for abuse by Epstein
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when they were all under 18.
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-We, the people, demand justice!
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-As well as her family,
the public gallery is filled
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with journalists
and former friends.
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-So, what do you think
will your feelings be like
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when you see her today?
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'cause, I mean,
you were friends back then.
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-Yeah, we used to be friends --
now a long time ago.
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It does feel very strange
that this vivacious creature
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I met in New York in 1989
is now with all of this,
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you know, hue and cry and drama
and global media attention.
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-When I think back to the girl
I met in 1990,
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{\an8}and if you told me this was
where her story would end up,
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{\an8}I wouldn't believe you.
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{\an8}Why would someone do this?
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You know, why would she
hurt other women?
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But then, I think you need
to go back
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to the very beginning
of this story.
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Robert Maxwell, her father,
was someone
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who really understood
the weaknesses of people
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and played on them
and used them.
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Life, to him, was war.
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And I think, from the moment
Robert Maxwell died,
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her life became war.
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Something twisted in her.
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She'd lost her father.
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She'd ostensibly lost
all her money.
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The shame on the family
was huge,
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and I think
she really felt that.
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I think she left England
because she felt that shame.
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And she was trying
to rebuild her life in America.
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It's almost as if she shed her
old skin and put on a new one.
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It was all about being seen
in the right place,
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with the right house,
with the right amount of staff,
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flying on private planes,
going to private islands.
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She had to be seen as powerful.
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She had to be seen as someone
at the top of the tree.
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She had to win.
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-I remember, vividly,
it was early one morning.
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{\an8}A young woman, with her
stepmother, came into my office
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{\an8}and told me what was ultimately
an incredible story
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{\an8}about an operation where
other young women
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were being recruited,
as well as her,
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to be brought over to this
mansion on Palm Beach island.
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She told me that there was
a wealthy gentleman
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that lived on the island
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that was willing to pay
these young girls $200 to $300,
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sometimes, to go and
give explicit sexual massages.
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She was 14 years old at the time
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that the incident
had occurred to her.
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Palm Beach Police Department
gets word of what's occurring,
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and during that investigation,
the police found literally
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tens of other girls who had
been brought
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to the mansion
and had been sexually abused.
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Young -- very young girls.
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{\an8}-Tell me, from the beginning,
how you met this gentleman.
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{\an8}-And, at that point, we learned
that it was a gentleman
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{\an8}by the name of Jeffrey Epstein.
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{\an8}Palm Beach is
a very exclusive island.
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These are the top-100
wealthiest people,
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sometimes in the world,
to have winter homes.
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And when I say "winter homes",
these are huge mansions
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on a very exclusive
and wealthy island.
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And then,
there's West Palm Beach,
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which is the mainland portion
of Palm Beach County.
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But the West Palm Beach area,
really,
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as you go from the water
out west,
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you have much-less-wealthy
individuals.
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You have people living
in trailer homes.
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What we found was that most of
the young girls
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came from this area.
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A lot of them
had troubled youths.
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They had troubled backgrounds.
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$100, $200 U.S.
really meant a lot to them.
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If a 50-year-old man
drives up in a limousine
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or even a Rolls-Royce
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and approaches this
14-year-old girl on the street
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and says "Hey, young girl,
get in the car
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and come back to my home,
and I'm going to, you know,
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have you give me a massage,"
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that young girl, even at 14,
her defences are high enough
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at that point to run away,
hopefully.
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But when a very sophisticated,
attractive older woman
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with a British accent approaches
and says,
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"Hey, you know,
you're beautiful.
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Come back to the house, and I
know a man who is friendly with
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the owner of Victoria's Secret,
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and you would make
a beautiful model.
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And we'd love for you to come
back and pose for us."
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That 14-year-old girl --
all of a sudden,
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those defences that would
ordinarily be up are now down.
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This is a woman who knew
what Epstein was going to do.
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She was bringing them
into the mouth of the lion.
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She knew, firsthand, the abuse
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that these young girls were
going to suffer.
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-I wanted to just, like,
be quiet and live my life
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and just forget about it all.
272
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But then,
I can't forget about it.
273
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I'm tired of feeling ashamed,
274
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when I didn't actually
do anything wrong.
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And I know that
I'm one of the lucky ones.
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I know that other people
have had far worse,
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and that's who I want
to speak for.
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I want to speak for the people,
you know,
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who can't talk anymore.
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I was just a young girl
with hopes and dreams,
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and I thought I could really
make something of my life.
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So I started modelling.
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I thought, you know,
that I could try.
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[ Chuckles ]
285
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One day, this beautiful
American model approached me
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and asked me
if I was a model.
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I told her that I'd just started
modelling,
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and then,
she said her friend,
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who owned
Victoria's Secret, was here,
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and did I want to meet him?
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Because he could help
with my modelling career.
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So, I was like,
"Oh, my God, like,
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my dreams are all coming true."
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I just couldn't believe it.
295
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What an opportunity.
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So, we went to show Jeffrey
my portfolio.
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I walked into the hotel room,
I sat opposite him,
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I gave him my modelling book,
299
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and he looked through it
and he was like, "Wow.
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You have the most amazing figure
I've ever seen in my life."
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Then he said, "Right, we
definitely want to bring you
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over from South Africa
to New York."
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They said that they'd pay
for my ticket and get me a visa.
304
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I thought it was going to be
the most amazing opportunity
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of my life.
306
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But then his office phoned and
said, "Pack your bag.
307
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We're going to the Caribbean."
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I assumed it
was for a photo shoot,
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so I said, immediately, "Yes."
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It was the most beautiful place
you'd ever seen, ever.
311
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The sea there is absolutely
exquisite, the turquoise sea.
312
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When I first arrived there,
it was just me.
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I was staying in
a small chalet by the pool.
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On the first day I got there,
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I found all these
disposable cameras.
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So, I took --
I kept two of them, or three,
317
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and took a few photos
while I was there.
318
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[ Camera shutter clicking ]
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The little chalet I was made to
stay in when I first got there
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had this very weird artwork
on the wall.
321
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[ Camera shutter clicks ]
322
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It was a naked girl,
and there was, like,
323
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a big walrus trying to --
324
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It looked like the walrus
was trying to rape her.
325
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Yeah, it was a very
disturbing picture.
326
00:21:00,103 --> 00:21:03,758
I've never seen a picture
like that.
327
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He had a lot of weird stuff
around his house.
328
00:21:07,965 --> 00:21:10,793
There was just pictures
of naked girls everywhere.
329
00:21:11,724 --> 00:21:13,068
And there was a lot
of naked pictures
330
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of Ghislaine around, too.
331
00:21:16,517 --> 00:21:17,931
Well, when I first met
Ghislaine,
332
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I was told that
she was Epstein's girlfriend.
333
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The thing is, they never --
334
00:21:23,965 --> 00:21:25,965
I didn't even see them
hold hands or kiss once
335
00:21:25,965 --> 00:21:28,172
or even give each other
a hug, to be honest.
336
00:21:28,172 --> 00:21:30,275
I never saw them, like,
come that close.
337
00:21:30,275 --> 00:21:33,586
So it definitely wasn't a
romantic relationship.
338
00:21:36,206 --> 00:21:39,655
Jeffrey really liked
watching movies.
339
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And the next day,
another girl was brought in,
340
00:21:41,275 --> 00:21:42,620
and we were watching a movie.
341
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And this other girl was there,
342
00:21:44,241 --> 00:21:47,310
and she started performing
a sex act on him
343
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while I was sitting next to him,
344
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,758
and I was absolutely petrified.
345
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Because I was so young and I had
never seen anything like that.
346
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So I just ran out of the room
and I was crying.
347
00:21:55,620 --> 00:21:59,034
I was just --
I just didn't know what to do.
348
00:22:00,137 --> 00:22:02,482
There was no hope
of getting away.
349
00:22:02,482 --> 00:22:04,241
You know, I was in
a foreign country.
350
00:22:04,241 --> 00:22:06,034
I was without any cellphone
or money
351
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or means of communication.
352
00:22:09,137 --> 00:22:12,275
I just realised then
I was completely trapped.
353
00:22:14,379 --> 00:22:17,586
And there was nothing
I could do.
354
00:22:23,551 --> 00:22:27,068
Ghislaine was running the girls,
and she'd also tell us when
355
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we had to go to his bedroom.
356
00:22:29,344 --> 00:22:33,413
And you couldn't say no.
There was just no option.
357
00:22:33,413 --> 00:22:35,517
You didn't want to
make them angry.
358
00:22:35,517 --> 00:22:38,620
It would have been very,
very scary making them angry.
359
00:22:38,620 --> 00:22:41,172
No one even tried
to stand up against them.
360
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Mnh-mnh.
361
00:22:44,241 --> 00:22:48,931
His bedroom was
pitch-dark and ice-cold.
362
00:22:48,931 --> 00:22:50,379
I just checked out of my body
363
00:22:50,379 --> 00:22:52,448
and I just let him do
what he wanted,
364
00:22:52,448 --> 00:22:56,344
because I didn't know
what else to do.
365
00:22:56,344 --> 00:23:00,862
I tried to escape this room
in my mind.
366
00:23:00,862 --> 00:23:03,758
I just tried to pretend
it wasn't happening.
367
00:23:05,724 --> 00:23:07,655
Things happened there
that scared me so deeply
368
00:23:07,655 --> 00:23:10,172
that I can't even
talk about them.
369
00:23:13,103 --> 00:23:16,137
He fed off the terror,
off the --
370
00:23:16,137 --> 00:23:17,586
There was something about
the energy of a girl
371
00:23:17,586 --> 00:23:20,068
being scared that he liked.
372
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He was taking me back and forth.
373
00:23:30,551 --> 00:23:33,724
I think it was over like --
just under a year and a half.
374
00:23:33,724 --> 00:23:35,793
I was so broken by that point
that I just
375
00:23:35,793 --> 00:23:38,620
sort of went along with it.
376
00:23:38,620 --> 00:23:43,068
I went along with anything,
I suppose.
377
00:23:43,068 --> 00:23:44,379
I was being ordered
to his bedroom
378
00:23:44,379 --> 00:23:46,758
at least three times a day.
379
00:23:46,758 --> 00:23:50,103
And by that point,
there were even more girls.
380
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,827
In that time, I saw at least
60 girls coming and going.
381
00:23:54,827 --> 00:23:56,793
At least.
382
00:23:56,793 --> 00:23:59,655
I was 20 when I was taken there.
383
00:23:59,655 --> 00:24:00,862
So, you see, I was lucky
384
00:24:00,862 --> 00:24:03,068
'cause I wasn't as young
as the other girls.
385
00:24:05,586 --> 00:24:09,482
It was just like a factory.
386
00:24:09,482 --> 00:24:11,310
He was running a machine,
and Ghislaine Maxwell
387
00:24:11,310 --> 00:24:13,137
was the one operating it.
388
00:24:15,172 --> 00:24:18,034
You know, people ask
why I went back.
389
00:24:18,034 --> 00:24:21,034
No one disobeyed Epstein.
390
00:24:23,758 --> 00:24:26,275
Before I was sent
home, he took me to his office
391
00:24:26,275 --> 00:24:29,275
and he told me that a woman
had accused him of rape,
392
00:24:29,275 --> 00:24:31,206
and he planted drugs
in her apartment
393
00:24:31,206 --> 00:24:33,931
and had her sent to prison.
394
00:24:33,931 --> 00:24:37,551
And then he said that he
had my family's name on a list.
395
00:24:37,551 --> 00:24:41,758
So I just did as I was told,
because I was petrified of him,
396
00:24:41,758 --> 00:24:43,620
because of who he was.
397
00:24:43,620 --> 00:24:47,689
I knew that crossing him
would be a very, very bad idea.
398
00:24:59,689 --> 00:25:02,379
I never felt okay again
after that.
399
00:25:05,103 --> 00:25:07,206
Everything just fell to pieces.
400
00:25:11,413 --> 00:25:13,448
It's very, very hard
to understand.
401
00:25:16,862 --> 00:25:19,275
I'm still trying to piece it
all together.
402
00:25:31,862 --> 00:25:34,965
♪♪
403
00:25:34,965 --> 00:25:37,724
[ Beep ]
404
00:25:37,724 --> 00:25:46,310
♪♪
405
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:49,827
-After two weeks of evidence
for the prosecution,
406
00:25:49,827 --> 00:25:52,275
it's time for Maxwell's defence.
407
00:25:52,275 --> 00:25:53,586
-They will try and cast doubt
408
00:25:53,586 --> 00:25:55,448
on some of the stories
of the victims.
409
00:25:55,448 --> 00:25:56,793
Ultimately, it does come down
410
00:25:56,793 --> 00:25:58,862
to whether you believe
the victims
411
00:25:58,862 --> 00:26:00,655
or whether you believe
Ghislaine Maxwell,
412
00:26:00,655 --> 00:26:04,000
who has denied all of
the charges against her.
413
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,586
-They are expected to try
to paint
414
00:26:05,586 --> 00:26:09,448
Maxwell as being something
of a victim herself.
415
00:26:14,275 --> 00:26:17,103
-With his sister fighting back
in the courtroom,
416
00:26:17,103 --> 00:26:19,931
Kevin Maxwell calls
a press conference
417
00:26:19,931 --> 00:26:22,310
and goes on the offensive.
418
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:25,172
-Our sister has been
in pre-trial detention
419
00:26:25,172 --> 00:26:27,965
for 522 days.
420
00:26:27,965 --> 00:26:31,517
She is in the care
of the Department of justice.
421
00:26:33,275 --> 00:26:35,586
You really have to ask yourself,
in 2021,
422
00:26:35,586 --> 00:26:40,448
what on earth
are they doing shackling
423
00:26:40,448 --> 00:26:43,620
a 59-year-old woman
in this way every day,
424
00:26:43,620 --> 00:26:46,827
when she represents absolutely
no threat to the community?
425
00:26:46,827 --> 00:26:50,448
And so what we're
asking for is for them
426
00:26:50,448 --> 00:26:55,275
to live up to the duty of care
they owe an innocent person,
427
00:26:55,275 --> 00:26:59,724
who is presumed innocent
until a verdict comes in.
428
00:26:59,724 --> 00:27:03,344
Ultimately, the only people
that can help are you guys,
429
00:27:03,344 --> 00:27:05,413
because it's simply
unacceptable.
430
00:27:05,413 --> 00:27:07,000
You wouldn't want it to happen
to your mother,
431
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,931
your sister, your girlfriend,
or any friend of yours.
432
00:27:09,931 --> 00:27:12,344
You know, enough is enough.
This has got to stop.
433
00:27:39,068 --> 00:27:41,137
-When you have a hunter,
434
00:27:41,137 --> 00:27:44,344
he's going to go after
the weakest in the pack.
435
00:27:45,517 --> 00:27:47,758
And that's exactly what
Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell
436
00:27:47,758 --> 00:27:49,724
thrived on,
is hunting the weakest.
437
00:27:51,793 --> 00:27:56,310
In an effort to discourage
them from talking,
438
00:27:56,310 --> 00:28:02,034
they thoroughly dug into
the lives of these young girls.
439
00:28:04,448 --> 00:28:06,862
Some of my clients would tell me
that they had cars
440
00:28:06,862 --> 00:28:08,862
that were following them
down the street
441
00:28:08,862 --> 00:28:10,793
to and from school.
442
00:28:10,793 --> 00:28:12,931
They had vehicles that would
show up at their house
443
00:28:12,931 --> 00:28:16,448
late at night and shine lights
into their bedroom windows.
444
00:28:17,344 --> 00:28:19,758
They had random phone calls
445
00:28:19,758 --> 00:28:22,275
that were being called
at their homes.
446
00:28:22,275 --> 00:28:24,206
It was really unbelievable.
447
00:28:24,931 --> 00:28:29,689
So, we reached out to the
Palm Beach Police Department,
448
00:28:29,689 --> 00:28:32,517
and that's when things
really began to take off.
449
00:28:38,068 --> 00:28:41,620
-It is now 2:15 p.m.
450
00:28:50,448 --> 00:28:54,827
[ Police radio chatter ]
451
00:28:54,827 --> 00:29:03,068
♪♪
452
00:29:03,068 --> 00:29:11,137
♪♪
453
00:29:11,137 --> 00:29:19,620
♪♪
454
00:29:19,620 --> 00:29:28,000
♪♪
455
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,379
-Palm Beach Police Department --
456
00:29:29,379 --> 00:29:32,793
they went in and found
that it was highly likely
457
00:29:32,793 --> 00:29:36,000
that Epstein had gotten
tipped off to the investigation.
458
00:29:37,448 --> 00:29:38,827
When they arrived at the home,
459
00:29:38,827 --> 00:29:42,344
there were numerous things
that were missing,
460
00:29:42,344 --> 00:29:46,413
like security cameras
and hard drives to computers.
461
00:29:46,413 --> 00:29:48,620
But there were certain things
462
00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:51,965
that they were
able to find and seize,
463
00:29:51,965 --> 00:29:55,000
like phone books
and message pads.
464
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,482
Those message pads included
numerous different
465
00:29:58,482 --> 00:30:03,068
phone calls to young girls
who police knew were underage.
466
00:30:03,068 --> 00:30:04,586
[ Telephone rings ]
467
00:30:04,586 --> 00:30:07,137
Messages about how Epstein
was going to be in town...
468
00:30:07,137 --> 00:30:08,931
[ Telephone rings ]
...what his schedule was,
469
00:30:08,931 --> 00:30:10,551
when they could
come over to the house.
470
00:30:10,551 --> 00:30:12,586
[ Answering machine
rewinding, beeps ]
471
00:30:12,586 --> 00:30:15,068
Those types of things
were hard evidence
472
00:30:15,068 --> 00:30:16,931
of what was going on
in the home.
473
00:30:16,931 --> 00:30:18,758
[ Dialing ]
474
00:30:18,758 --> 00:30:21,310
And it was at that time
that they finally
475
00:30:21,310 --> 00:30:22,793
put together what they felt
476
00:30:22,793 --> 00:30:26,241
was a very solid case
to prosecute Jeffrey Epstein
477
00:30:26,241 --> 00:30:29,758
and then turned that over to the
state attorney in Palm Beach.
478
00:30:44,689 --> 00:30:48,310
There was a certain amount
of hope the feds would be able
479
00:30:48,310 --> 00:30:52,413
to expand this investigation
across the country,
480
00:30:52,413 --> 00:30:54,827
well beyond Palm Beach
481
00:30:54,827 --> 00:30:57,724
and even to New York
and his private island.
482
00:30:57,724 --> 00:30:59,551
So there was
a great deal of hope
483
00:30:59,551 --> 00:31:03,172
that this would end up
with Jeffrey Epstein behind bars
484
00:31:03,172 --> 00:31:05,448
for a very long time,
if not forever.
485
00:31:10,793 --> 00:31:13,689
And then, all of a sudden,
out of the clear blue,
486
00:31:13,689 --> 00:31:15,896
I get a random call
in the middle of the day
487
00:31:15,896 --> 00:31:19,517
that Jeffrey Epstein's
going to be at the courthouse
488
00:31:19,517 --> 00:31:22,241
and he's going to
be giving a plea.
489
00:31:22,241 --> 00:31:26,103
No one had informed me
or my clients about this.
490
00:31:26,103 --> 00:31:27,586
No one had told
any of the victims
491
00:31:27,586 --> 00:31:30,034
that there was a potential deal
in the works.
492
00:31:30,034 --> 00:31:33,586
It was rather shocking that,
at points during the plea,
493
00:31:33,586 --> 00:31:35,275
the lawyers actually
went up to the judge
494
00:31:35,275 --> 00:31:36,827
and had a private conference,
495
00:31:36,827 --> 00:31:39,965
where no one could hear
what they were talking about.
496
00:31:39,965 --> 00:31:42,586
I mean, there's that sinking
feeling, as a lawyer,
497
00:31:42,586 --> 00:31:44,862
that something is going on now
498
00:31:44,862 --> 00:31:48,965
that's being hidden
from everyone else.
499
00:31:48,965 --> 00:31:52,965
I've been practising law now
for 25, 26 years.
500
00:31:52,965 --> 00:31:56,551
I don't think I've ever seen
an arraignment like that before.
501
00:32:06,413 --> 00:32:09,034
Under this deal, he was supposed
to spend at least a year
502
00:32:09,034 --> 00:32:12,448
behind bars in the county lockup
here in Palm Beach.
503
00:32:12,448 --> 00:32:15,689
But, interestingly, we came to
learn that his lawyers
504
00:32:15,689 --> 00:32:17,689
applied for release
during the day
505
00:32:17,689 --> 00:32:21,793
so that he could go to an
office building and do business.
506
00:32:21,793 --> 00:32:23,068
He would stay the day there.
507
00:32:23,068 --> 00:32:26,103
He would get
catered lunches, meals.
508
00:32:26,103 --> 00:32:27,448
People would come and visit him.
509
00:32:27,448 --> 00:32:29,586
Young girls would come,
other women.
510
00:32:29,586 --> 00:32:31,000
And then,
at the end of the day,
511
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,241
he would then drive back
to the jail,
512
00:32:33,241 --> 00:32:35,482
where he would then
just sleep.
513
00:32:35,482 --> 00:32:39,103
This is a man who was supposed
to be behind bars for molesting
514
00:32:39,103 --> 00:32:43,068
and abusing
over 40 young girls.
515
00:32:43,068 --> 00:32:45,965
He was essentially
spending nights in jail,
516
00:32:45,965 --> 00:32:48,724
and that was about it.
517
00:32:48,724 --> 00:32:54,206
It was incredibly disheartening
at the time
518
00:32:54,206 --> 00:32:59,379
to have to explain
to my clients the extent
519
00:32:59,379 --> 00:33:02,206
to which the system
let them down.
520
00:33:08,965 --> 00:33:11,068
-He's very happy that his jail
sentence is over
521
00:33:11,068 --> 00:33:14,172
and he can begin
a new chapter in his life.
522
00:33:30,793 --> 00:33:33,448
-In addition to being
a society columnist,
523
00:33:33,448 --> 00:33:36,793
it was a natural thing for me
to go into public relations,
524
00:33:36,793 --> 00:33:39,724
because I knew
exactly what people wanted.
525
00:33:39,724 --> 00:33:43,206
They wanted to be
in the columns.
526
00:33:43,206 --> 00:33:45,448
They wanted to be in the papers.
527
00:33:45,448 --> 00:33:48,827
They wanted to be
in the glossy magazines.
528
00:33:48,827 --> 00:33:52,689
I knew exactly what they wanted
and I knew how to do it.
529
00:33:52,689 --> 00:33:55,137
And I would do that
for people -- and I still do.
530
00:33:55,137 --> 00:33:58,344
The problem is, sometimes,
these people get in trouble.
531
00:33:58,344 --> 00:34:04,275
After the conviction,
Jeffrey Epstein calls me.
532
00:34:04,275 --> 00:34:06,551
Oh, my God,
my office freaked out!
533
00:34:06,551 --> 00:34:07,793
You know, the girls
in my office are like,
534
00:34:07,793 --> 00:34:09,379
"Jeffrey Epstein's
on the phone."
535
00:34:09,379 --> 00:34:12,172
It was, like, embarrassing
to even get the call.
536
00:34:12,172 --> 00:34:13,931
So Jeffrey
wanted crisis management.
537
00:34:13,931 --> 00:34:16,896
You know, he wanted advice.
538
00:34:16,896 --> 00:34:21,448
So, you know, I put my tie on
and I trotted over to the house,
539
00:34:21,448 --> 00:34:23,068
because I wanted
to see the house.
540
00:34:24,379 --> 00:34:29,896
This very grand house,
supposedly worth $77 million.
541
00:34:29,896 --> 00:34:33,379
And there's this
very grand foyer
542
00:34:33,379 --> 00:34:36,448
with a big, curving staircase.
543
00:34:36,448 --> 00:34:37,931
I did notice,
throughout the house,
544
00:34:37,931 --> 00:34:41,448
there were a lot
of very heavy velvet drapes.
545
00:34:41,448 --> 00:34:44,206
Like, better to keep out
the sunlight.
546
00:34:44,206 --> 00:34:45,827
But out walks Jeffrey.
547
00:34:45,827 --> 00:34:51,551
So, we sat down, he asked me
what he should do,
548
00:34:51,551 --> 00:34:53,758
and I had no intention
of representing him
549
00:34:53,758 --> 00:34:54,862
and I never did.
550
00:34:54,862 --> 00:34:57,517
He never paid me.
I never took anything.
551
00:34:57,517 --> 00:35:02,137
He said to me, "Couri,
what I really don't want to do
552
00:35:02,137 --> 00:35:07,793
is have 'paedophile billionaire'
engraved on my tombstone."
553
00:35:07,793 --> 00:35:09,620
He said, "Every story starts out
554
00:35:09,620 --> 00:35:13,172
with 'paedophile billionaire
Jeffrey Epstein.'"
555
00:35:13,172 --> 00:35:15,896
In some cases, you can't do it.
556
00:35:15,896 --> 00:35:20,137
You simply can't explain,
you know, Mr. Weinstein,
557
00:35:20,137 --> 00:35:22,586
or Ghislaine or Jeffrey Epstein.
558
00:35:22,586 --> 00:35:23,931
I said, you know,
559
00:35:23,931 --> 00:35:30,482
it starts with really showing
contrition, confessing."
560
00:35:30,482 --> 00:35:33,241
I said, "Jeffrey, you know,
who better than the highest
561
00:35:33,241 --> 00:35:36,655
power on Earth --
in communication with God.
562
00:35:38,413 --> 00:35:40,655
Why don't I get you an audience
with the Pope?"
563
00:35:42,931 --> 00:35:44,275
But, of course, you know,
564
00:35:44,275 --> 00:35:48,275
he's already
thought of it years ago.
565
00:35:48,275 --> 00:35:50,896
So, I said,
"Why don't you give money?
566
00:35:50,896 --> 00:35:52,586
There's an arts foundation,
567
00:35:52,586 --> 00:35:58,034
and people have given away lots
and lots of money in order to
568
00:35:58,034 --> 00:36:01,241
sort of whitewash their images."
569
00:36:01,241 --> 00:36:04,137
So, Ghislaine, of course,
started her own charity,
570
00:36:04,137 --> 00:36:08,034
potentially or possibly
or maybe to help the oceans,
571
00:36:08,034 --> 00:36:11,000
but she really
was helping was herself.
572
00:36:13,137 --> 00:36:17,448
-But as Epstein and Maxwell
embarked on a charm offensive,
573
00:36:17,448 --> 00:36:21,896
two lawyers were unconvinced.
574
00:36:21,896 --> 00:36:24,896
They were digging behind
the public facade,
575
00:36:24,896 --> 00:36:28,448
and were staggered
by what they discovered.
576
00:36:28,448 --> 00:36:30,620
-The scale of the
sex-trafficking operation
577
00:36:30,620 --> 00:36:32,931
was astronomical.
578
00:36:32,931 --> 00:36:35,827
{\an8}They were bringing in, you know,
up to three different girls
579
00:36:35,827 --> 00:36:37,172
{\an8}a day at times.
580
00:36:37,172 --> 00:36:40,586
{\an8}They did it
everywhere they went.
581
00:36:40,586 --> 00:36:43,517
They would do it in
New York, Florida.
582
00:36:43,517 --> 00:36:46,965
If they were travelling
overseas, they would do it.
583
00:36:46,965 --> 00:36:49,206
It was constant.
It never stopped.
584
00:36:50,655 --> 00:36:54,620
-They had people recruiting
young girls from Eastern Europe,
585
00:36:54,620 --> 00:36:56,655
England, and France.
586
00:36:56,655 --> 00:36:59,379
All over the world.
587
00:36:59,379 --> 00:37:04,344
We have two young women
we represent
588
00:37:04,344 --> 00:37:11,482
who were abused by the
Epstein sex trafficking --
589
00:37:11,482 --> 00:37:17,482
they were both recruited
within the same month.
590
00:37:17,482 --> 00:37:19,793
One was recruited
in South Africa.
591
00:37:21,724 --> 00:37:24,448
One was recruited
in Los Angeles, California.
592
00:37:27,586 --> 00:37:31,724
-I was a young adult,
stars in my eyes,
593
00:37:31,724 --> 00:37:37,482
ready to take on the world,
high hopes, big dreams.
594
00:37:37,482 --> 00:37:42,275
I am thinking that this is a
once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
595
00:37:45,172 --> 00:37:48,172
I'm being flown out to New York.
596
00:37:50,206 --> 00:37:54,379
I would be met at the airport
with a driver,
597
00:37:54,379 --> 00:37:57,689
with my name on a sign.
598
00:37:57,689 --> 00:38:00,551
That was...
599
00:38:00,551 --> 00:38:03,241
I mean, that was thrilling,
you know?
600
00:38:05,482 --> 00:38:08,689
I'm to meet Miss Maxwell
at her home.
601
00:38:11,448 --> 00:38:16,344
The outside is beautiful,
and I knock on the door.
602
00:38:16,344 --> 00:38:20,379
I walk into this big,
beautiful room.
603
00:38:20,379 --> 00:38:24,862
I noticed a framed photo
on the wall of her
604
00:38:24,862 --> 00:38:30,793
and ex-President Bill Clinton,
and I thought, you know, "Wow."
605
00:38:30,793 --> 00:38:36,344
And a few moments later,
out she comes.
606
00:38:36,344 --> 00:38:38,379
Ghislaine told me that
I was going to go meet
607
00:38:38,379 --> 00:38:40,551
with her partner, Jeffrey.
608
00:38:40,551 --> 00:38:43,517
She looked right at me
and said to me,
609
00:38:43,517 --> 00:38:47,310
"Make sure that you
give Jeffrey what he wants,
610
00:38:47,310 --> 00:38:50,172
because Jeffrey always gets
what he wants."
611
00:38:51,551 --> 00:38:55,379
Ghislaine knew what was
going to happen to me.
612
00:38:55,379 --> 00:39:03,172
She set me up to walk myself
to a predator's house,
613
00:39:03,172 --> 00:39:07,344
where he assaulted me.
614
00:39:07,344 --> 00:39:11,241
She knew what was
going to happen.
615
00:39:13,275 --> 00:39:20,034
You don't facilitate and
organise one of the largest
616
00:39:20,034 --> 00:39:21,965
sex-trafficking rings
in the world
617
00:39:21,965 --> 00:39:25,206
without intentionally
knowing what you're doing
618
00:39:25,206 --> 00:39:28,103
and without intentionally
playing your role.
619
00:39:28,103 --> 00:39:32,344
And not only intentionally,
but very masterfully.
620
00:39:32,344 --> 00:39:35,448
She did it very well.
621
00:39:35,448 --> 00:39:41,000
Ghislaine Maxwell changed the
entire trajectory of my life.
622
00:39:42,862 --> 00:39:48,620
And years later, I decided
that I need to do something.
623
00:39:48,620 --> 00:39:52,206
I began communicating
with the FBI
624
00:39:52,206 --> 00:39:57,000
and with my wonderful
lawyer, Sigrid.
625
00:40:14,413 --> 00:40:19,310
Thursday morning, I had plugged
my phone in to charge,
626
00:40:19,310 --> 00:40:22,793
and when I did,
I had accidentally swiped
627
00:40:22,793 --> 00:40:26,172
to the news headlines
that pop up.
628
00:40:26,172 --> 00:40:30,344
And there was his face.
629
00:40:30,344 --> 00:40:32,793
It was Jeffrey.
630
00:40:32,793 --> 00:40:34,241
-A wealthy money manager,
631
00:40:34,241 --> 00:40:36,689
whose friends have included
presidents and a prince,
632
00:40:36,689 --> 00:40:38,862
is behind bars
in Manhattan tonight.
633
00:40:38,862 --> 00:40:41,344
Jeffrey Epstein is accused
of sex trafficking
634
00:40:41,344 --> 00:40:43,758
and molesting underage girls.
635
00:40:43,758 --> 00:40:47,482
-Physically, I'm shaking,
and my heart is racing.
636
00:40:47,482 --> 00:40:49,965
-The 66-year-old
multi-millionaire
637
00:40:49,965 --> 00:40:52,827
hedge-fund manager,
also a registered sex offender,
638
00:40:52,827 --> 00:40:56,000
is accused of paying
underage girls for massages
639
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,689
and molesting them at his homes
in Florida and New York.
640
00:41:00,689 --> 00:41:03,517
-I remember that moment
very well.
641
00:41:03,517 --> 00:41:07,275
To have him actually arrested
was just monumental
642
00:41:07,275 --> 00:41:09,413
for me and for the women
that I represent.
643
00:41:09,413 --> 00:41:14,206
That moment --
it felt really powerful.
644
00:41:14,206 --> 00:41:18,275
They're starting to see
the light of justice.
645
00:41:22,965 --> 00:41:24,517
-Breaking news tonight.
646
00:41:24,517 --> 00:41:26,000
{\an8}The death of
convicted sex offender
647
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,413
{\an8}and part-time
Palm Beacher Jeffrey Epstein.
648
00:41:29,413 --> 00:41:31,965
{\an8}His death has officially
been ruled a suicide.
649
00:41:31,965 --> 00:41:34,620
The autopsy report was released
late this afternoon
650
00:41:34,620 --> 00:41:36,586
by the New York City
Medical Examiner's office.
651
00:41:36,586 --> 00:41:39,793
It says Epstein hanged himself
with a bedsheet
652
00:41:39,793 --> 00:41:42,517
in his Manhattan jail cell.
653
00:41:42,517 --> 00:41:45,068
-I wanted to talk about
the death of Mr. Epstein.
654
00:41:45,068 --> 00:41:48,655
{\an8}Do you concur with the opinion
that it was a suicide?
655
00:41:48,655 --> 00:41:51,310
{\an8}-That was the finding
of the coroner, sir.
656
00:41:51,310 --> 00:41:54,689
-With a case this high profile,
657
00:41:54,689 --> 00:41:57,344
there's got to be either a
major malfunction of the system
658
00:41:57,344 --> 00:42:01,206
or a criminal enterprise at foot
to allow this to happen.
659
00:42:01,206 --> 00:42:02,827
Was Mr. Epstein
on suicide watch?
660
00:42:02,827 --> 00:42:05,068
-Yes, he was.
661
00:42:05,068 --> 00:42:07,344
-Well, clearly,
it didn't work here.
662
00:42:07,344 --> 00:42:09,758
So, we'll await the report,
663
00:42:09,758 --> 00:42:12,172
because all the victims
of Mr. Epstein
664
00:42:12,172 --> 00:42:14,379
have to have
their heart ripped out,
665
00:42:14,379 --> 00:42:16,000
'cause they'll never
see justice.
666
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,275
-When Jeffrey Epstein died,
that was really traumatic news
667
00:42:20,275 --> 00:42:22,689
for the women
that I represented.
668
00:42:22,689 --> 00:42:25,931
They had hoped to see him
in court,
669
00:42:25,931 --> 00:42:30,034
to see him charged with
all the crimes he had committed.
670
00:42:30,034 --> 00:42:33,482
So I was very angry that that
was taken away from them.
671
00:42:33,482 --> 00:42:36,344
-You get a whole bunch of women
who were raped by this guy.
672
00:42:36,344 --> 00:42:39,517
This is a sex-trafficking ring
in the United States.
673
00:42:39,517 --> 00:42:42,000
This guy had evidence,
he's got co-conspirators,
674
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,379
and there are victims out there
675
00:42:43,379 --> 00:42:46,068
who want to know where
the evidence has gone.
676
00:42:46,068 --> 00:42:49,689
-We are not allowed to talk
to anybody in our institutions
677
00:42:49,689 --> 00:42:51,482
about anything that happened
over the Epstein --
678
00:42:51,482 --> 00:42:54,137
-With all due respect, you
said -- I think your quote was,
679
00:42:54,137 --> 00:42:55,689
"We treat every inmate
the same."
680
00:42:55,689 --> 00:42:58,344
But not every inmate
has equal value
681
00:42:58,344 --> 00:43:00,689
for future
criminal investigations.
682
00:43:00,689 --> 00:43:03,034
Jeffrey Epstein was still
to testify in a case.
683
00:43:03,034 --> 00:43:06,000
That bastard wasn't able
to testify
684
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,862
against his other
co-conspirators.
685
00:43:09,172 --> 00:43:12,310
-Even before Jeffrey
passed away, I was very hopeful
686
00:43:12,310 --> 00:43:15,689
that the prosecutors
would continue to charge people,
687
00:43:15,689 --> 00:43:20,241
including, of course,
Ghislaine Maxwell.
688
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,931
-After nearly three weeks,
689
00:43:40,931 --> 00:43:45,241
the trial of Ghislaine Maxwell
is drawing to a close.
690
00:43:45,241 --> 00:43:49,137
The defence and prosecution
make their closing arguments,
691
00:43:49,137 --> 00:43:50,413
and one of Maxwell's friends
692
00:43:50,413 --> 00:43:54,862
is there to witness
the final chapter.
693
00:43:54,862 --> 00:44:00,379
-One hears about despicable
crimes and terrible criminals.
694
00:44:00,379 --> 00:44:03,482
There's an added layer
of personal interest
695
00:44:03,482 --> 00:44:05,896
{\an8}when it's someone
that you've known
696
00:44:05,896 --> 00:44:11,000
{\an8}and thought you knew
and possibly never really knew.
697
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,482
{\an8}Um...
698
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,724
{\an8}So it's strangely compelling.
699
00:44:16,724 --> 00:44:22,068
If she's been horribly misjudged
and there is some, you know,
700
00:44:22,068 --> 00:44:29,896
plausible explanation
that she be found not guilty --
701
00:44:29,896 --> 00:44:35,275
fascinating to see
if that's really possible.
702
00:44:35,275 --> 00:44:37,482
It seems so improbable.
703
00:44:38,724 --> 00:44:43,517
Perhaps the truth
will eventually emerge.
704
00:44:43,517 --> 00:44:45,689
[ Camera shutters clicking ]
705
00:44:48,413 --> 00:44:50,758
-Fascinating day in court
706
00:44:50,758 --> 00:44:54,689
and so completely not
what I was expecting.
707
00:44:54,689 --> 00:44:58,827
When I arrived this morning,
from everything I'd read,
708
00:44:58,827 --> 00:45:00,758
I was pretty convinced
that Ghislaine Maxwell
709
00:45:00,758 --> 00:45:03,724
was going away
for a long, long time.
710
00:45:03,724 --> 00:45:09,551
But when the defence spoke,
they did a very good job.
711
00:45:09,551 --> 00:45:11,689
I have to say,
I'm really shocked.
712
00:45:11,689 --> 00:45:13,517
It's the last thing
I was expecting --
713
00:45:13,517 --> 00:45:18,344
to come away
feeling that Ghislaine
714
00:45:18,344 --> 00:45:22,758
had some chance
of evading these charges.
715
00:45:24,931 --> 00:45:28,517
-Jurors have to decide which
version of events to believe.
716
00:45:28,517 --> 00:45:30,413
We don't know how long
it's going to take
717
00:45:30,413 --> 00:45:33,758
to come back with a verdict,
but we may get one by Christmas,
718
00:45:33,758 --> 00:45:37,241
which is Ghislaine Maxwell's
60th birthday.
719
00:45:47,689 --> 00:45:49,586
[ Camera shutter clicks ]
720
00:45:49,586 --> 00:45:51,724
-With Epstein confirmed dead...
721
00:45:51,724 --> 00:45:53,103
[ Camera shutter clicks ]
722
00:45:53,103 --> 00:45:55,620
...and the U.S. authorities
turning their attention
723
00:45:55,620 --> 00:45:57,000
to Maxwell...
724
00:45:59,862 --> 00:46:05,379
{\an8}in the U.K., the spotlight fell
on one of her old friends.
725
00:46:06,241 --> 00:46:08,206
{\an8}-Ghislaine's always known
Prince Andrew,
726
00:46:08,206 --> 00:46:10,482
{\an8}but in about 2000, 2001,
727
00:46:10,482 --> 00:46:12,965
she suddenly became
Andrew's best friend.
728
00:46:12,965 --> 00:46:17,689
{\an8}And I think they went on holiday
together about eight times.
729
00:46:19,793 --> 00:46:22,448
{\an8}It had been noted that
Prince Andrew
730
00:46:22,448 --> 00:46:26,862
{\an8}was partying quite a lot.
731
00:46:26,862 --> 00:46:28,724
I was a journalist
on the Evening Standard,
732
00:46:28,724 --> 00:46:33,068
and I was told, "It seems
something odd's going on here.
733
00:46:33,068 --> 00:46:36,000
Can you have a look into it?"
734
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,551
And the more I looked into it,
735
00:46:37,551 --> 00:46:41,137
the more that Ghislaine Maxwell
was inexorably linked
736
00:46:41,137 --> 00:46:43,310
with all these parties
and holidays
737
00:46:43,310 --> 00:46:45,827
that Prince Andrew
had gone on.
738
00:46:45,827 --> 00:46:51,827
They formed this very strong,
symbiotic relationship.
739
00:46:51,827 --> 00:46:53,793
My headline was "Andrew's fixer.
740
00:46:53,793 --> 00:46:55,517
She's the daughter of
Robert Maxwell
741
00:46:55,517 --> 00:46:58,758
and she's manipulating
his jet-set lifestyle."
742
00:47:00,551 --> 00:47:03,517
The more I got into it,
the more I realised
743
00:47:03,517 --> 00:47:06,000
that Epstein was always
in the background.
744
00:47:08,517 --> 00:47:12,275
{\an8}-In 2000, Epstein was a guest
at Windsor Castle
745
00:47:12,275 --> 00:47:13,517
{\an8}and at Sandringham.
746
00:47:13,517 --> 00:47:14,862
He was brought right
into the heart
747
00:47:14,862 --> 00:47:17,275
of the royal family
at your invitation.
748
00:47:17,275 --> 00:47:20,103
-But certainly at my invitation,
749
00:47:20,103 --> 00:47:22,517
not at the royal family's
invitation.
750
00:47:22,517 --> 00:47:27,275
But remember that it was
his girlfriend
751
00:47:27,275 --> 00:47:29,862
that was
the key element in this.
752
00:47:29,862 --> 00:47:32,724
-Prince Andrew, for some reason,
753
00:47:32,724 --> 00:47:35,965
allowed himself
to be persuaded to succumb
754
00:47:35,965 --> 00:47:37,862
to a 50-minute interview.
755
00:47:37,862 --> 00:47:41,206
I remember thinking,
756
00:47:41,206 --> 00:47:43,482
"Who has advised him
to do this"?
757
00:47:44,551 --> 00:47:47,241
-One of Epstein's accusers,
Virginia Roberts,
758
00:47:47,241 --> 00:47:50,310
has made allegations
against you.
759
00:47:50,310 --> 00:47:53,137
She says she met you in 2001.
760
00:47:53,137 --> 00:47:54,689
She says she dined with you,
761
00:47:54,689 --> 00:47:57,827
danced with you
at Tramp nightclub in London.
762
00:47:57,827 --> 00:48:00,793
She went on to have sex with you
in a house
763
00:48:00,793 --> 00:48:04,586
in Belgravia belonging to
Ghislaine Maxwell, your friend.
764
00:48:04,586 --> 00:48:05,931
Your response?
765
00:48:05,931 --> 00:48:09,758
-I have no recollection
of ever meeting this lady.
766
00:48:09,758 --> 00:48:11,103
None whatsoever.
767
00:48:11,103 --> 00:48:13,068
-You've seen the photo?
-I've seen the photograph.
768
00:48:13,068 --> 00:48:17,482
-How do you explain that?
-I can't.
769
00:48:17,482 --> 00:48:18,931
Because I don't -- I have no --
770
00:48:18,931 --> 00:48:22,206
Again, I have absolutely
no memory of that photograph
771
00:48:22,206 --> 00:48:24,000
ever being taken.
772
00:48:29,758 --> 00:48:32,000
-The photograph is taken
in Ghislaine's Belgravia
773
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,344
mews house.
774
00:48:34,344 --> 00:48:38,172
Ghislaine is to one side,
sort of grinning.
775
00:48:38,172 --> 00:48:41,689
You can see the flash
reflected in the window.
776
00:48:41,689 --> 00:48:46,620
It's almost certain that the
photograph was taken by Epstein.
777
00:48:47,931 --> 00:48:51,241
-I'm not entirely
convinced that...
778
00:48:51,241 --> 00:48:55,586
I mean, that is what I would
describe as me in that picture,
779
00:48:55,586 --> 00:48:58,724
but I can't -- We can't be
certain as to whether or not
780
00:48:58,724 --> 00:49:04,448
that's my hand on her --
whatever it is -- left side.
781
00:49:11,931 --> 00:49:14,379
-Two weeks later,
Virginia Roberts
782
00:49:14,379 --> 00:49:18,862
gave her account
of that evening.
783
00:49:18,862 --> 00:49:20,965
{\an8}-He knows what happened.
784
00:49:20,965 --> 00:49:22,344
{\an8}I know what happened.
785
00:49:22,344 --> 00:49:24,413
And there's only one of us
telling the truth,
786
00:49:24,413 --> 00:49:26,241
and I know that's me.
787
00:49:32,965 --> 00:49:35,275
That day, we were having tea,
788
00:49:35,275 --> 00:49:37,793
and Andrew was talking
about Fergie,
789
00:49:37,793 --> 00:49:40,172
which is his ex-wife
at that point.
790
00:49:40,172 --> 00:49:42,655
And Ghislaine's bad-mouthing
Fergie, as well,
791
00:49:42,655 --> 00:49:45,586
and Epstein's
just socially awkward,
792
00:49:45,586 --> 00:49:48,310
so I think he's just laughing
about everything,
793
00:49:48,310 --> 00:49:50,965
and I'm sitting there,
like I was always told to do.
794
00:49:50,965 --> 00:49:53,275
"Sit there, don't talk
unless you're talked to."
795
00:49:53,275 --> 00:49:58,310
And Ghislaine tells me
that I have to do for Andrew
796
00:49:58,310 --> 00:50:01,172
what I do for Jeffrey.
797
00:50:01,172 --> 00:50:05,068
And that made me sick.
798
00:50:09,206 --> 00:50:11,724
There was a bath,
and it started there,
799
00:50:11,724 --> 00:50:13,482
and then it led
into the bedroom.
800
00:50:13,482 --> 00:50:18,896
And it didn't last very long,
the whole, entire procedure.
801
00:50:18,896 --> 00:50:20,655
It was disgusting.
802
00:50:24,103 --> 00:50:29,793
He got up and he said, "Thanks,"
and walked out, and...
803
00:50:29,793 --> 00:50:33,586
I sat there in bed,
just horrified and ashamed
804
00:50:33,586 --> 00:50:36,344
and felt dirty and I had to get
up and go and have a shower.
805
00:50:36,344 --> 00:50:38,413
And, you know, the next day,
806
00:50:38,413 --> 00:50:40,689
Ghislaine tells me
I did a really good job.
807
00:50:40,689 --> 00:50:42,103
You know, she pats me
on the back and said,
808
00:50:42,103 --> 00:50:43,793
"You made him really happy".
809
00:50:58,310 --> 00:51:02,172
It was a wicked time in my life.
810
00:51:02,172 --> 00:51:05,413
It was a really scary time
in my life.
811
00:51:15,689 --> 00:51:18,517
♪♪
812
00:51:18,517 --> 00:51:21,586
-One of Jeffrey Epstein's
closest confidants
813
00:51:21,586 --> 00:51:25,241
has now been arrested
by the FBI in New Hampshire.
814
00:51:25,241 --> 00:51:27,103
Ghislaine Maxwell
has been charged now
815
00:51:27,103 --> 00:51:31,000
with six counts related
to the serial sexual abuse
816
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,344
and sex trafficking
of minors.
817
00:51:33,344 --> 00:51:34,965
-We've been discreetly
keeping tabs on
818
00:51:34,965 --> 00:51:37,965
Maxwell's whereabouts as we
worked this investigation.
819
00:51:37,965 --> 00:51:40,275
And more recently, we learned
she'd slithered away
820
00:51:40,275 --> 00:51:42,482
to a gorgeous property
in New Hampshire,
821
00:51:42,482 --> 00:51:44,862
continuing to live
a life of privilege,
822
00:51:44,862 --> 00:51:46,344
while her victims live
with the trauma
823
00:51:46,344 --> 00:51:49,103
inflicted upon them years ago.
824
00:51:49,103 --> 00:51:52,206
-Today, we announced charges
against Ghislaine Maxwell
825
00:51:52,206 --> 00:51:56,655
for helping Jeffrey Epstein
sexually exploit
826
00:51:56,655 --> 00:52:00,793
and abuse
multiple minor girls.
827
00:52:00,793 --> 00:52:04,344
Maxwell has been taken
into custody early this morning
828
00:52:04,344 --> 00:52:06,517
and will be presented
this afternoon
829
00:52:06,517 --> 00:52:10,448
before a magistrate judge in
the district of New Hampshire.
830
00:52:31,551 --> 00:52:40,000
♪♪
831
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,000
-The jury in
Ghislaine Maxwell's trial
832
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,344
has been out for five days,
833
00:52:46,344 --> 00:52:49,000
and there's still no verdict.
834
00:52:53,586 --> 00:52:55,448
-If the verdict isn't guilty,
835
00:52:55,448 --> 00:52:59,551
I think people will be very
angry, but also not surprised.
836
00:53:01,965 --> 00:53:04,413
I wouldn't be surprised
if she walks free.
837
00:53:06,862 --> 00:53:08,379
-Alright, we're on top
of breaking news,
838
00:53:08,379 --> 00:53:11,275
breaking into regular
programming for WFLX,
839
00:53:11,275 --> 00:53:13,931
to tell you that the jury
has reached a verdict
840
00:53:13,931 --> 00:53:16,448
in the
Ghislaine Maxwell trial.
841
00:53:16,448 --> 00:53:17,758
-We're not going to
answer any questions,
842
00:53:17,758 --> 00:53:18,965
but this is Teresa Helm.
843
00:53:18,965 --> 00:53:22,413
-It's hugely important
that she's found guilty,
844
00:53:22,413 --> 00:53:27,482
because the world is not
a safe place with her in it.
845
00:53:28,896 --> 00:53:37,034
♪♪
846
00:53:37,034 --> 00:53:45,517
♪♪
847
00:53:45,517 --> 00:53:51,137
♪♪
848
00:53:51,137 --> 00:53:54,172
-A few words' reaction
over here?
849
00:53:54,172 --> 00:53:58,620
-We firmly believe
in Ghislaine's innocence.
850
00:53:58,620 --> 00:54:02,000
Obviously, we are very
disappointed with the verdict.
851
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,896
{\an8}We have already started
working on the appeal
852
00:54:04,896 --> 00:54:07,689
{\an8}and we are confident
that she will be vindicated.
853
00:54:11,344 --> 00:54:14,413
{\an8}-I've known my sister 60 years.
854
00:54:14,413 --> 00:54:20,000
I choose to believe my sister's
view of these events.
855
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,413
{\an8}I don't believe she's capable
of the charges
856
00:54:24,413 --> 00:54:26,241
{\an8}that she's been convicted for.
857
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,793
She has been scapegoated
in a process
858
00:54:30,793 --> 00:54:35,034
that was flawed
from the start.
859
00:54:35,034 --> 00:54:37,172
She has not had justice.
860
00:54:40,344 --> 00:54:45,896
-It's been a long road,
longer than it should've been.
861
00:54:45,896 --> 00:54:51,344
There were many people who knew
about this and kept silent.
862
00:54:51,344 --> 00:54:55,448
It could not have existed
on the scale it existed,
863
00:54:55,448 --> 00:54:58,620
for the time it existed
without the participation
864
00:54:58,620 --> 00:55:03,551
of lots of
very rich and powerful people.
865
00:55:03,551 --> 00:55:06,241
It was about money.
It was about power.
866
00:55:06,241 --> 00:55:08,724
It was about influence.
867
00:55:08,724 --> 00:55:17,000
♪♪
868
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:25,517
♪♪
869
00:55:25,517 --> 00:55:28,896
-I never thought
it would happen.
870
00:55:28,896 --> 00:55:30,586
These people have got away
871
00:55:30,586 --> 00:55:33,448
with what they've got away
with for many years.
872
00:55:33,448 --> 00:55:36,344
You've got to keep them away
873
00:55:36,344 --> 00:55:39,344
so that they can't harm
other people.
874
00:55:39,344 --> 00:55:41,689
You know, people are waking up
to the truth.
875
00:55:49,586 --> 00:55:53,965
-Why didn't you take
your position of power
876
00:55:53,965 --> 00:55:55,482
and do something good with it?
877
00:56:01,103 --> 00:56:05,724
You know, why didn't you do
something positive in the world?
878
00:56:08,241 --> 00:56:10,068
What a waste.
879
00:56:19,965 --> 00:56:24,137
-My father believed that you had
to make your own way in life.
880
00:56:26,586 --> 00:56:30,620
It would be marvellous to be
able to emulate
881
00:56:30,620 --> 00:56:32,241
some of the positive
882
00:56:32,241 --> 00:56:34,965
and wonderful things
that he did with his life.
883
00:56:34,965 --> 00:56:37,000
That'd be great.
884
00:56:39,379 --> 00:56:41,413
-All life is a choice.
885
00:56:44,931 --> 00:56:47,827
And if you want to succeed,
886
00:56:47,827 --> 00:56:50,586
then you have got
to commit yourself.
887
00:56:53,241 --> 00:56:55,586
Be single-minded.
888
00:56:57,103 --> 00:57:00,000
Duty is more important
than love.
889
00:57:04,896 --> 00:57:08,034
That's also what I'm trying
to teach my children.
890
00:57:10,586 --> 00:57:14,655
The achievement at the end of it
is that I feel that my life,
891
00:57:14,655 --> 00:57:18,172
which I'm continuing to live
to the full
892
00:57:18,172 --> 00:57:21,103
and will do so
until the day I die,
893
00:57:21,103 --> 00:57:26,551
I will have left the world
a slightly better place
894
00:57:26,551 --> 00:57:31,896
by having lived in it
and have influenced my children
895
00:57:31,896 --> 00:57:33,793
in the right direction.
896
00:57:33,793 --> 00:57:37,275
♪♪
897
00:57:37,275 --> 00:57:39,448
[ Door creaks ]
898
00:57:46,896 --> 00:57:49,068
♪♪